Eugene Lee

Production Designer


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In his nearly five-hour interview, Eugene Lee (1939-2023) talks about his early years growing up in Wisconsin. He recalls attending the University of Wisconsin, Carnegie Tech, and the Yale School of Drama, and details his early theater work and success as the production designer for the play "Candide," which caught the attention of Lorne Michaels. Lee then describes how he was hired as the original production designer on Saturday Night Live, how he re-designed Studio 8H and its legendary balcony specifically for the show, how he staffed his department, and shares stories of working with various directors, crew and cast members, hosts, and musical guests over the years. Lee details his designs for the original Home Base for Saturday Night Live and talks about later re-designs of the space. He explains why he followed Lorne Michaels when Michaels left SNL for five years (1980-1985) and talks about his work with Michaels on The New Show and The Kids in the Hall during those years. He then describes his return to Saturday Night Live with Michaels in 1985, how the show had changed in the interim, how the design shop works, and how the production design team splits up work and gets through a typical week on SNL. He outlines the few sets that get saved from week-to-week and why, and tells of his work designing for talk shows, including Ricki Lake, Late Night with Conan O'Brien, The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, and Late Night with Seth Meyers. Lee talks about the craft of production design and offers advice to aspiring designers. He comments on for how much longer he anticipates staying with the show, what he envisions for his life when he stops working, his then-current book and plans for a pencil factory, and concludes with thoughts on the successes in his life (designing for "Candide", "Wicked", and Saturday Night Live) and his proudest career achievements. Jenni Matz conducted the interview on August 16, 2018 in Providence, Rhode Island.

All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.

"[My] contribution to Saturday Night [Live] is how the studio is laid out. People don’t recognize that because they just accept it."  

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Highlights
Eugene Lee on how he got hired as the original production designer at Saturday Night Live
02:07
Eugene Lee on his original design for Saturday Night Live in Studio 8H and why he wanted a balcony
03:05
Eugene Lee on preparing for the very first Saturday Night Live show with host George Carlin, and lessons learned from that experience
01:48
Eugene Lee on working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together
01:06
Eugene Lee on the role of a television production designer
05:25
Eugene Lee on his proudest career achievement - the balcony in Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live
01:49
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Chapter 1

On his early years and influences; on his family not being able to decide what to name him; on his parents and grandparents; on his interests growing up; on his love of painting and boats; on his early memories of television and always liking the scenery; on enjoying being backstage in theater productions
On being in the ROTC program; on attending the University of Wisconsin; on doing set design for a theater in Madison, WI; on deciding to go to Carnegie Tech; on working in Chicago; on attending Yale Drama School
On theater work in Brooklyn; on how he became the original production designer on Saturday Night Live; on his first thoughts on Studio 8H; on the original office spaces for Saturday Night Live; on needing another designer to work with him on Saturday Night Live and hiring Leo Yoshimura; on Dick Ebersol wanting him to hire Norman Davis instead of Leo Yoshimura
On the original Saturday Night Live design department on the seventh floor of 30 Rock; on his original budget restrictions on Saturday Night Live and interviewing directors; on his original design for Studio 8H and why he wanted a balcony; on Lorne Michaels needing to get the original model for Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live approved and money not being an issue after it was approved

Chapter 2

On the timeline for designing the original studio for Saturday Night Live; on the original Home Base set for Saturday Night Live; on staffing the production design department at Saturday Night Live during the show's early years
On Lorne Michaels' accessibility on Saturday Night Live; on a typical week on Saturday Night Live during the early days of the show; on how much interaction he had with the cast and crew on the early days of Saturday Night Live; on difficulties with lighting the show and having very few original crew members still around
On preparing for the very first show with host George Carlin, and lessons learned from that experience
On the five years Lorne Michaels (and he) were not at Saturday Night Live and working on The New Show with him; on why the live aspect is so important on Saturday Night Live; on working on The Kids in the Hall with Lorne Michaels; on Lorne Michaels (and he) returning to Saturday Night Live in 1985, redesigning Home Base, and the regular characters that always appear in hallway shots on the show; on hiring more people for his department on Saturday Night Live

Chapter 3

On production design on Easy Money (contd.) and bringing Keith Raywood onto his production design team at Saturday Night Live; on hiring Joe DeTullio; on the then-current Saturday Night Live design shop at Stiegelbauer Associates and previous design shops for the show
On how the four production designers on Saturday Night Live divide up their work and what a typical week on the show is like; on working with the musical guests on Saturday Night Live
On not saving most of the sets made for Saturday Night Live, but keeping the Oval Office set and a few game show sets; on how sets fit into the studio for Saturday Night Live and on working with the video unit; on how many people are involved with making the show; on how working on Saturday Night Live has changed over the years
On the production design budget on Saturday Night Live; on the process for moving large sets into Studio 8H; on close calls with sets on Saturday Night Live; on why his temperament is well-suited for being a production designer on Saturday Night Live and on working with Lorne Michaels; on what has kept him on Saturday Night Live for so long and on his other projects; on sketches he appeared in on Saturday Night Live

Chapter 4

On production design for the "Les Miserables" Saturday Night Live sketch with lobsters in a tank and on working up until the last second; on some of the most challenging sets he's been asked to build for Saturday Night Live
On not getting attached to sets for Saturday Night Live, on doing a lot of interviews over the years, and on writing a book; on the importance of his job on Saturday Night Live
On the story behind the Studio 8H balcony seats and seats for talk show sketches on Saturday Night Live; on the book and movie The Specialist

Chapter 5

On how sets being done last-minute contributes to the live theater aspect of Saturday Night Live; on no longer staying to see the live show on Saturday Night Live; on musical guests, hosts, and writers that he's enjoyed working with on Saturday Night Live; on his work designing for talk shows, including Ricki Lake, Late Night with Conan O'Brien, The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, and Late Night with Seth Meyers
On working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together; on the fun part about working on Saturday Night Live and on not caring about celebrities; on building a house near Lorne Michaels' house
On his comfort zone for designing, the craft of designing, and a project he worked on in Providence, RI; on his style and aesthetic; on his love of architectural models; on the book he's written about his work
On his mentors; on his successes in his life - "Candide" and "Wicked"; on Lorne Michaels and his idea for a pencil factory; on handling the business-side of being a production designer on Saturday Night Live and on other projects; on his book

Chapter 6

On advice to aspiring production designers; on his proudest career achievement - the balcony in Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live; on then-current projects; on for how much longer he'll be working at Saturday Night Live; on being nominated for and winning awards; on wanting to teach at Brown University if he stops working
On how he'd like to be remembered; on the proposed Broadway play "The Trump Follies"; on his then-upcoming book; on a pencil factory he's involved with and its surroundings; on the importance of a good beginning and a good ending
On the importance of makeup and hair on Saturday Night Live; on the "Church Lady" and "Wayne's World" sets on Saturday Night Live; on whether the Home Base set will change again on Saturday Night Live; on potential projects in his next chapter after he stops working; on designing the Emmy Awards one year when it was in Pasadena; on the Grand Central Home Base set on Saturday Night Live
Shows

Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

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Eugene Lee on designing the Emmy Awards one year when it was in Pasadena
00:44

Kids in the Hall, The

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Eugene Lee on working on The Kids in the Hall with Lorne Michaels
02:02

Late Night with Conan O'Brien

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Eugene Lee on his work designing for talk shows: Late Night with Conan O'Brien and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
07:01

Late Night with Seth Meyers

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Eugene Lee on designing the set for Late Night with Seth Meyers
03:31

New Show, The

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Eugene Lee on working on The New Show with Lorne Michaels and how working at CBS compared to working at NBC
02:21

Ricki Lake

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Eugene Lee on his work designing for talk shows: Ricki Lake
00:51

Saturday Night Live

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Eugene Lee on how he got hired at Saturday Night Live
13:00
Eugene Lee on his first thoughts on the Saturday Night Live studio, Studio 8H
00:56
Eugene Lee on the original office spaces for Saturday Night Live
01:43
Eugene Lee on needing another designer to work with him on Saturday Night Live and hiring Leo Yoshimura
03:01
Eugene Lee on Dick Ebersol wanting him to hire Norman Davis instead of Leo Yoshimura on Saturday Night Live
02:37
Eugene Lee on the original Saturday Night Live design department on the seventh floor of 30 Rock
02:34
Eugene Lee on his original budget restrictions on Saturday Night Live and interviewing directors
02:46
Eugene Lee on his original design for Saturday Night Live in Studio 8H and why he wanted a balcony
03:05
Eugene Lee on Lorne Michaels needing to get the original model for Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live approved and money not being an issue after it was approved
02:10
Eugene Lee on the timeline for designing the original studio for Saturday Night Live and wanting to use real brick for the original Home Base set for Saturday Night Live
02:45
Eugene Lee on the original scenery on Saturday Night Live
02:26
Eugene Lee on the research for sets and background on Saturday Night Live and certain sets that are kept
02:43
Eugene Lee on staffing the production design department at Saturday Night Live during the show's early years
02:24
Eugene Lee on a typical week on Saturday Night Live during the early days of the show
01:48
Eugene Lee on preparing for the very first Saturday Night Live show with host George Carlin, and lessons learned from that experience
01:48
Eugene Lee on how much interaction he had with the cast and crew on the early days of Saturday Night Live; on difficulties with lighting the show and having very few original crew members still around
04:24
Eugene Lee on the five years Lorne Michaels (and he) were not at Saturday Night Live and working on The New Show with him
02:45
Eugene Lee on why the live aspect is so important on Saturday Night Live
00:45
Eugene Lee on Lorne Michaels (and he) returning to Saturday Night Live in 1985, redesigning Home Base, and the regular characters that always appear in hallway shots on the show
01:44
Eugene Lee on hiring more people for his department on Saturday Night Live
05:53
Eugene Lee on bringing Keith Raywood and Joe DeTullio onto his production design team at Saturday Night Live
04:18
Eugene Lee on the then-current Saturday Night Live design shop at Stiegelbauer Associates and previous design shops for the show
03:06
Eugene Lee on how the four production designers on Saturday Night Live divide up their work and what a typical week on the show is like
03:15
Eugene Lee on working with the musical guests on Saturday Night Live and Lorne Michaels' involvement with musical guests
02:34
Eugene Lee on what a typical week on Saturday Night Live is like, contd.
03:41
Eugene Lee on not saving most of the sets made for Saturday Night Live, but keeping the Oval Office set and a few game show sets
02:33
Eugene Lee on how sets fit into the studio for Saturday Night Live and on working with the video unit; on how many people are involved with making the show
02:35
Eugene Lee on feeling sad after a show and how working on Saturday Night Live has changed over the years
01:13
Eugene Lee on the production design budget on Saturday Night Live
01:50
Eugene Lee on using cars on Saturday Night Live and the process for moving large sets into Studio 8H
02:26
Eugene Lee on close calls with sets on Saturday Night Live
03:02
Eugene Lee on why his temperament is well-suited for being a production designer on Saturday Night Live and on working with Lorne Michaels
02:57
Eugene Lee on working with Francis Ford Coppola on Saturday Night Live and on working with Lorne Michaels
02:09
Eugene Lee on what has kept him on Saturday Night Live for so long and on his other projects
01:14
Eugene Lee on sketches he appeared in on Saturday Night Live
00:58
Eugene Lee on production design for the "Les Miserables" Saturday Night Live sketch with lobsters in a tank and on working up until the last second
06:03
Eugene Lee on some of the most challenging sets he's been asked to build for Saturday Night Live
02:15
Eugene Lee on not getting attached to sets for Saturday Night Live, on doing a lot of interviews over the years, and on writing a book
03:28
Eugene Lee on the importance of his job on Saturday Night Live
07:36
Eugene Lee on the story behind the Studio 8H balcony seats and seats for talk show sketches on Saturday Night Live
03:06
Eugene Lee on how sets being done last-minute contributes to the live theater aspect of Saturday Night Live
02:45
Eugene Lee on no longer staying to see the live show on Saturday Night Live
00:55
Eugene Lee on musical guests, hosts, and writers that he's enjoyed working with on Saturday Night Live
02:54
Eugene Lee on working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together
01:06
Eugene Lee on the fun part about working on Saturday Night Live and on not caring about celebrities
01:19
Eugene Lee on what he would have said to his sons if they had wanted to be production designers and on Saturday Night Live having several generations of families working there
02:29
Eugene Lee on his proudest career achievement - the balcony in Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live
01:49
Eugene Lee on for how much longer he'll be working at Saturday Night Live
01:05
Eugene Lee on the Grand Central Home Base set on Saturday Night Live
00:31
Eugene Lee on the importance of makeup and hair on Saturday Night Live
01:48
Eugene Lee on the "Church Lady" set on Saturday Night Live
00:48
Eugene Lee on the "Wayne's World" set on Saturday Night Live
00:43
Eugene Lee on whether the Home Base set will change again on Saturday Night Live
00:08

Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, The

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Eugene Lee on his work designing for talk shows: Late Night with Conan O'Brien and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
06:01
Eugene Lee on the blue curtain on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
01:13
Eugene Lee on not dealing with network notes on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon -- he only deals with the executive producer
01:40
Eugene Lee on not designing any sets for the sketches on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
00:39
Topics

Advice

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Eugene Lee on advice to aspiring production designers
03:53
Eugene Lee on what he would have said to his sons if they had wanted to be production designers and on Saturday Night Live having several generations of families working there
02:29

Creative Influences and Inspiration

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Eugene Lee on his mentors and mentoring others
04:33

Emmy Awards

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Eugene Lee on designing the Emmy Awards one year when it was in Pasadena
00:44

First Big Break

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Eugene Lee on a pivotal moment in his career: doing set design for a theater in Madison, WI
01:21

Memorable Moments on Television

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Eugene Lee on preparing for the very first Saturday Night Live show with host George Carlin, and lessons learned from that experience
01:48
Eugene Lee on production design for the "Les Miserables" Saturday Night Live sketch with lobsters in a tank and on working up until the last second
06:03

Pivotal Career Moments

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Eugene Lee on a pivotal moment in his career: doing set design for a theater in Madison, WI
01:21
Eugene Lee on deciding to go to Carnegie Tech
05:03

Pop Culture

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Eugene Lee on preparing for the very first Saturday Night Live show with host George Carlin, and lessons learned from that experience
01:48
Eugene Lee on production design for the "Les Miserables" Saturday Night Live sketch with lobsters in a tank and on working up until the last second
06:03

Television Industry

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Eugene Lee on advice to aspiring production designers
03:53
Eugene Lee on what he would have said to his sons if they had wanted to be production designers and on Saturday Night Live having several generations of families working there
02:29

We Laughed

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Eugene Lee on production design for the "Les Miserables" Saturday Night Live sketch with lobsters in a tank and on working up until the last second
06:03
Professions

Designers

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Eugene Lee on why his temperament is well-suited for being a production designer on Saturday Night Live
00:50
Eugene Lee on the role of a television production designer
05:25
Eugene Lee on his comfort zone for designing
00:31
Eugene Lee on whether he prefers designing for one medium over another
00:17
Eugene Lee on whether or not his process changes when he designs for different mediums
02:05
Eugene Lee on whether or not he has a signature style; on his aesthetic and his love of architectural models; on the book he's written about his work
04:56
Eugene Lee on his drawings
01:28
Eugene Lee on his mentors and mentoring others
00:50
Eugene Lee on advice to aspiring production designers
03:53
Eugene Lee on what he would have said to his sons if they had wanted to be production designers and on Saturday Night Live having several generations of families working there
02:29

Production Designer

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Eugene Lee on why his temperament is well-suited for being a production designer on Saturday Night Live
00:50
Eugene Lee on the role of a television production designer
05:25
Eugene Lee on his comfort zone for designing
00:31
Eugene Lee on whether he prefers designing for one medium over another
00:17
Eugene Lee on whether or not his process changes when he designs for different mediums
02:08
Eugene Lee on whether or not he has a signature style; on his aesthetic and his love of architectural models; on the book he's written about his work
04:56
Eugene Lee on his drawings
01:24
Eugene Lee on his mentors and mentoring others
00:50
Eugene Lee on advice to aspiring production designers
03:53
Eugene Lee on what he would have said to his sons if they had wanted to be production designers and on Saturday Night Live having several generations of families working there
02:29
Genres

Awards Shows

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Eugene Lee on designing the Emmy Awards one year when it was in Pasadena
00:44

Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

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Eugene Lee on how he got hired as the original production designer on Saturday Night Live, hiring his first staff, and his original plans for Studio 8H
31:56
Eugene Lee on his early design ideas for Saturday Night Live and staffing his department
36:27
Eugene Lee on expanding the production design team at Saturday Night Live, what a typical week is like, working with Lorne Michaels, and how the show has changed over the years
39:00
Eugene Lee on specific sets and challenging sets on Saturday Night Live, on the importance of his job, and the story behind the Studio 8H balcony seats and seats for talk show sketches on Saturday Night Live
22:32
Eugene Lee on how sets being done last-minute contributes to the live theater aspect of Saturday Night Live; on no longer staying to see the live show on Saturday Night Live, and on musical guests, hosts, and writers that he's enjoyed working with on Saturday Night Live
06:34
Eugene Lee on working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together; on the fun part about working on Saturday Night Live and on not caring about celebrities
02:53
Eugene Lee on his proudest career achievement - the balcony in Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live
01:49
Eugene Lee on the importance of makeup and hair on Saturday Night Live
01:48
Eugene Lee on the "Church Lady" and "Wayne's World" sets on Saturday Night Live
01:41
Eugene Lee on the Grand Central Home Base set on Saturday Night Live
00:31

Talk Shows

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Eugene Lee on his work designing for talk shows: Ricki Lake, Late Night with Conan O'Brien, The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon, and Late Night with Seth Meyers
19:17
People

Francis Ford Coppola

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Eugene Lee on working with Frances Ford Coppola on Saturday Night Live and on working with Lorne Michaels
02:09

Joe DeTullio

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Eugene Lee on bringing Joe DeTullio onto his production design team at Saturday Night Live and Joe overseeing the design shop at Stiegelbauer's
04:54
Eugene Lee on working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together
01:06
Eugene Lee on the Grand Central Home Base set on Saturday Night Live
00:31

Barry Diller

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Eugene Lee on an ongoing project with Barry Diller
02:40

Dick Ebersol

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Eugene Lee on the first time he met Dick Ebersol
02:49
Eugene Lee on Dick Ebersol wanting him to hire Norman Davis instead of Leo Yoshimura on Saturday Night Live
02:37

Darrell Hammond

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Eugene Lee on the proposed Broadway play "The Trump Follies"
06:59

Ricki Lake

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Eugene Lee on his work designing for talk shows: Ricki Lake
00:51

Lorne Michaels

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Eugene Lee on how he got hired as the original production designer at Saturday Night Live
02:07
Eugene Lee on Lorne Michaels' pitch for bringing him onto Saturday Night Live and why he said yes
06:31
Eugene Lee on Lorne Michaels needing to get the original model for Studio 8H for Saturday Night Live approved and money not being an issue after it was approved
02:10
Eugene Lee on Lorne Michaels' accessibility on Saturday Night Live
00:31
Eugene Lee on why his temperament is well-suited for being a production designer on Saturday Night Live and on working with Lorne Michaels
01:03
Eugene Lee on working with Frances Ford Coppola on Saturday Night Live and on working with Lorne Michaels
02:09
Eugene Lee on building a house near Lorne Michaels' house
01:03
Eugene Lee on Lorne Michaels and his idea for a pencil factory
12:49
Eugene Lee on for how much longer he'll be working at Saturday Night Live and how Lorne Michaels impacts his decision
01:05

Conan O'Brien

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Eugene Lee on his work designing for talk shows: Late Night with Conan O'Brien
02:25

Prince

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Eugene Lee on musical guests and hosts that he's enjoyed working with on Saturday Night Live - Prince
00:49

Keith Raywood

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Eugene Lee on hiring Keith Raywood as a production designer on Saturday Night Live (via working on East Money with Jim Signorelli)
05:32
Eugene Lee on production design on Easy Money (contd.) and bringing Keith Raywood onto his production design team at Saturday Night Live
02:30
Eugene Lee on the blue curtain on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
01:13
Eugene Lee on working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together
01:06

Howard Shore

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Eugene Lee on the first time he heard Howard Shore perform the theme to Saturday Night Live
00:16

James Signorelli

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Eugene Lee on hiring Keith Raywood as a production designer on Saturday Night Live (via working on East Money with Jim Signorelli)
05:32

Paul Simon

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Eugene Lee on working with the musical guests on Saturday Night Live and meeting Paul Simon
00:48
Eugene Lee on enjoying working with Paul Simon on Saturday Night Live
00:22

Rolling Stones

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Eugene Lee on the Rolling Stones' early appearance on Saturday Night Live and Lorne Michaels' involvement with musical guests
01:25

Donald J. Trump

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Eugene Lee on the proposed Broadway play "The Trump Follies"
06:59

Dave Wilson

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Eugene Lee on interviewing Dave Wilson to become a director on Saturday Night Live
01:42
Eugene Lee on designing the Emmy Awards one year when it was in Pasadena, directed by Dave Wilson
01:43

Leo Yoshimura

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Eugene Lee on needing another designer to work with him on Saturday Night Live and hiring Leo Yoshimura
03:01
Eugene Lee on Dick Ebersol wanting him to hire Norman Davis instead of Leo Yoshimura on Saturday Night Live
02:37
Eugene Lee on staffing the production design department at Saturday Night Live during the show's early years
02:24
Eugene Lee on designing the set for Late Night with Seth Meyers
00:30
Eugene Lee on working with the three other Saturday Night Live production designers on non-SNL projects and how the four of them work together
01:06

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