"If you are an original and if you can write, you can't stop it. A real writer always writes. And it's the loneliest and the toughest."

    About This Interview

    In his four-and-a-half-hour interview, Mel Shavelson (1917-2007) talks about starting out as a press agent with Milt Josefsberg in 1938 and moving to Los Angeles the following year, with Mr. Josefsberg, to write for the radio show The Pepsodent Bob Hope Show. He discusses writing for the first commercial television program ever broadcast west of the Mississippi, for Paramount's experimental station W6XYZ (which became KTLA), in 1947. Shavelson discusses creating Make Room for Daddy and the critically acclaimed series My World... and Welcome to It. He reminisces about writing for several Academy Awards broadcasts and talks about the Writers Guild of America, for which he served as president. He also speaks about writing and directing the television movies The Legend of Valentino, The Great Houdini, and Ike: The War Years. Karen Herman conducted the interview on April 6, 1999 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Mel Shavelson on his TV movie The Great Houdini

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    Mel Shavelson on advice to aspiring writers

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on being part of a minstrel show in high school, and on racial breakthroughs in television; on movies he watched growing up

    18:08

    On writing around NBC Standards and Practices for Bob Hope; on the kind of writing he did when he was younger; on getting into comedy writing; on getting a job writing jokes for newspaper columns in 1937

    10:18

    Chapter 2

    On working with Milt Josefsberg; on how he came to be a writer for Bob Hope; on writing for Bob Hope's radio show; on the format of Bob Hope's radio show

    14:57

    On writing the various segments of Bob Hope's radio show; on working with Judy Garland; on how Bob Hope tested his material for his radio show and on Hope's comedic style

    05:22

    On Bob Hope acting in movies and doing his radio show for the soldiers during World War II; on Bob Hope's travels around the world entertaining soldiers during World War II; on Bob Hope bringing his radio show to vaudeville; on Hope's celebrity

    09:11

    Chapter 3

    On how Bob Hope treated his writers and on what he learned as a writer for Hope; on Bob Hope doing jokes about Senator Joseph McCarthy; on censorship on Bob Hope's radio show

    06:33

    On Bob Hope entertaining the troops in Vietnam and on the politics of the time; on the early development of television and color television; on writing an early experimental broadcast with Bob Hope

    16:52

    On finding the topics for Bob Hope's jokes and on Hope's "jokes vault"; on leaving Bob Hope's radio show

    05:16

    Chapter 4

    On writing feature films for Bob Hope; on how he came to write for Danny Thomas; on writing The Danny Thomas Show; on helping to shape The Danny Thomas Show

    16:50

    On how Danny Thomas took to television on The Danny Thomas Show; on the writing process of The Danny Thomas Show; on the writers of the show; on the network relationship with The Danny Thomas Show

    12:13

    Chapter 5

    On his experience with the Hollywood Blacklist; on the societal impact of television; on how the television industry has changed since he started; on directing the Bob Hope feature film "The Seven Little Foys"

    15:28

    On his style of directing; on writing material for Academy Awards telecasts

    14:31

    Chapter 6

    On the relationship between movies studios and networks in the '50s; on the growth of television; on a directors strike

    15:56

    On creating My World ... and Welcome to It

    13:13

    Chapter 7

    On his affiliation with the WGA; on writers strikes

    15:39

    On his duties as president of the WGA; on serving three terms as president of the WGA; on the WGA Foundation; on the WGA's relationship with other entertainment guilds and on the writing he did for Ike: The War Years

    14:24

    Chapter 8

    On his work on the miniseries Ike: The War Years; on his TV movie The Great Houdini

    15:03

    On directing features, including "Houseboat"; on advice to aspiring writers: on how he'd like to be remembered

    14:19

    Chapter 9

    On some of the people he worked with in his career including Milt Josefsberg, Sy Rose, Al Schwartz, Sheldon Leonard, Lucille Ball, and Jack Rose; on his family

    28:16

    Academy Awards, The

    Mel Shavelson on writing material for the Academy Awards telecasts hosted by Bob Hope

    06:13

    Danny Thomas Show, The aka Make Room for Daddy

    Mel Shavelson on writing The Danny Thomas Show

    06:51

    Mel Shavelson on helping to shape The Danny Thomas Show

    05:07

    Mel Shavelson on how Danny Thomas took to television on The Danny Thomas Show

    02:46

    Mel Shavelson on the writing process of The Danny Thomas Show and on the writers of the show

    07:10

    Mel Shavelson on the network relationship with The Danny Thomas Show

    02:18

    Great Houdini, The

    Mel Shavelson on his TV movie The Great Houdini

    07:56

    Ike: The War Years

    Mel Shavelson on the writing he did for Ike: The War Years

    00:40

    Mel Shavelson on his work on the miniseries Ike: The War Years

    07:07

    My World ... and Welcome to it

    Mel Shavelson on creating My World ... and Welcome to It

    13:13

    Advice

    Mel Shavelson on advice to aspiring writers

    03:11

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Mel Shavelson on writing around NBC Standards and Practices for Bob Hope

    03:02

    Mel Shavelson on censorship on Bob Hope's radio show

    01:28

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Mel Shavelson on being part of a minstrel show in high school and on racial breakthroughs in television

    04:27

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope entertaining the troops in Vietnam, and on the politics of the time

    07:03

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope doing jokes about Senator Joseph McCarthy

    01:40

    Mel Shavelson on his experience with the Hollywood Blacklist and on the societal impact of television

    09:39

    Industry Crossroads

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope doing jokes about Senator Joseph McCarthy

    01:40

    Mel Shavelson on his experience with the Hollywood Blacklist and on the societal impact of television

    09:39

    Mel Shavelson on a directors strike

    06:12

    Mel Shavelson on writers strikes

    01:27

    Industry Strikes

    Mel Shavelson on a directors strike

    06:12

    Mel Shavelson on writers strikes

    01:27

    Representation on Television

    Mel Shavelson on being part of a minstrel show in high school and on racial breakthroughs in television

    04:27

    Technological Innovation

    Mel Shavelson on the early development of television, and of color television, and on writing an early experimental broadcast with Bob Hope

    09:49

    Television Industry

    Mel Shavelson on writing around NBC Standards and Practices for Bob Hope

    03:02

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope doing jokes about Senator Joseph McCarthy

    01:40

    Mel Shavelson on the early development of television, and of color television, and on writing an early experimental broadcast with Bob Hope

    09:49

    Mel Shavelson on his experience with the Hollywood Blacklist and on the societal impact of television

    09:39

    Mel Shavelson on how the television industry has changed since he started

    02:01

    Mel Shavelson on the growth of television

    03:23

    Mel Shavelson on a directors strike

    06:12

    Mel Shavelson on writers strikes

    01:27

    Mel Shavelson on advice to aspiring writers

    03:11

    Underrepresented Voices

    Mel Shavelson on being part of a minstrel show in high school and on racial breakthroughs in television

    04:27

    Vietnam War

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope entertaining the troops in Vietnam, and on the politics of the time

    07:03

    War

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope's travels around the world entertaining soldiers during World War II

    02:46

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope's travels around the world entertaining soldiers during World War II

    02:46

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope entertaining the troops in Vietnam, and on the politics of the time

    07:03

    World War II

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope's travels around the world entertaining soldiers during World War II

    02:46

    Directors

    Mel Shavelson on his style of directing

    08:18

    Writers

    Mel Shavelson on how Bob Hope treated his writers and on what he learned as a writer for Hope

    03:26

    Mel Shavelson on the writing process of The Danny Thomas Show and on the writers of the show

    07:10

    Mel Shavelson on advice to aspiring writers

    03:12

    Awards Shows

    Mel Shavelson on writing material for the Academy Awards telecasts hosted by Bob Hope

    06:21

    Comedy Series

    Mel Shavelson on writing around NBC Standards and Practices for Bob Hope

    03:02

    Mel Shavelson on writing The Danny Thomas Show

    29:04

    Mel Shavelson on creating My World ... and Welcome to It

    13:13

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Mel Shavelson on his work on the miniseries Ike: The War Years

    07:07

    Mel Shavelson on his TV movie The Great Houdini

    07:56

    Lucille Ball

    Mel Shavelson on working with Lucille Ball on the feature film Yours, Mine and Ours

    04:54

    Judy Garland

    Mel Shavelson on writing the various segments of Bob Hope's radio show and on working with Judy Garland

    02:37

    Bob Hope

    Mel Shavelson on writing around NBC Standards and Practices for Bob Hope

    03:02

    Mel Shavelson on working with Milt Josefsberg; on how he came to be a writer for Bob Hope

    04:16

    Mel Shavelson on writing for Bob Hope's radio show

    05:30

    Mel Shavelson on the format of Bob Hope's radio show and the process of getting the show on

    05:11

    Mel Shavelson on writing the various segments of Bob Hope's radio show and on working with Judy Garland

    02:37

    Mel Shavelson on how Bob Hope tested his material for his radio show and on Hope's comedic style

    02:46

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope acting in movies and doing his radio show for soldiers during World War II

    04:28

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope's travels around the world entertaining soldiers during World War II

    02:46

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope bringing his radio show to vaudeville and on Hope's celebrity

    01:56

    Mel Shavelson on how Bob Hope treated his writers and on what he learned as a writer for Hope

    03:26

    Mel Shavelson on finding the topics for Bob Hope's jokes and on Hope's "jokes vault"

    04:12

    Mel Shavelson on leaving Bob Hope's radio show

    01:04

    Mel Shavelson on the early development of television and color television and on writing an early experimental broadcast with Bob Hope

    09:49

    Mel Shavelson on writing feature films for Bob Hope and how he came to write for Danny Thomas

    04:52

    Mel Shavelson on directing the Bob Hope feature film "The Seven Little Foys"

    03:49

    Mel Shavelson on writing material for the Academy Awards telecasts hosted by Bob Hope

    06:13

    Milt Josefsberg

    Mel Shavelson on working with Milt Josefsberg; on how he came to be a writer for Bob Hope

    04:16

    Joseph McCarthy

    Mel Shavelson on Bob Hope doing jokes about Senator Joseph McCarthy

    01:40

    Danny Thomas

    Mel Shavelson on writing feature films for Bob Hope and how he came to write for Danny Thomas

    04:52

    Mel Shavelson on how Danny Thomas took to television on The Danny Thomas Show

    02:46

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