"...To be executive producer of the dominant news show with a circulation that would have made William Randolph Hearst twirl in his grave. The circulation of the Cronkite show when I left, is bigger than the three network news shows combined today."

    About This Interview

    In his over three-and-a-half-hour interview, Sanford Socolow (1928-2015) talks about his work for the International News Service (INS) in the early 1950s, as a Far East correspondent. He chronicles his first work at CBS in the mid-1950s in the news division. He discusses writing for Ned Calmer for the morning news and for Walter Cronkite on Eyewitness. He speaks in great detail about the long association with Walter Cronkite that ensued, which culminated in his serving as the final executive producer of The Evening News with Walter Cronkite. He speaks about producing Cronkite's broadcast in the 1960s, and Cronkite's role as managing editor of the news, and discusses such news events as the coverage of the Vietnam War, the upheaval at the 1968 Democratic National Convention, and the historic moon landing. He also comments on other significant news figures at the network during this period including Edward R. Murrow, Mike Wallace, Eric Sevareid, Don Hewitt, Ernie Leiser, Les Midgley, and Richard Salant. He describes his transition into the executive suites as vice president of CBS News and then head of the Washington Bureau in the 1970s. He discusses the contentious relationship between the Nixon Administration and the press. He notes the transition of Dan Rather to the evening news anchor's chair and his move to London to serve as the CBS News bureau chief. Finally, he talks about leaving CBS News to serve as the executive producer of the Christian Science Monitor's nightly newscast on the Discovery Channel in the late 1980s, World Monitor. Dr. Ralph Engelman conducted the interview on August 27, 2008 in New York, NY.

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    Chapter 1

    On his early years and influences; on attending Stuyvesant High School and his interest in journalism; on studying to be an accountant

    06:50

    On becoming a stringer at The New York Times  and getting drafted into the Korean War

    07:58

    On his work for the International News Service (INS) in the early 1950s as a Far East Correspondent; on Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio's honeymoon in Tokyo and spending a week with Monroe in Korea

    05:49

    On joining DuMont and then CBS in the mid-50s; on working in the news division and writing for Ned Calmer for the morning news; on the early use of videotape; on his heart attack in 1957; on working for Walter Cronkite on Eyewitness; on attending Columbia University (thanks to a fellowship from William S. Paley and the CBS Foundation)

    31:48

    On working with Walter Cronkite when he became news anchor of CBS Evening News

    07:19

    Chapter 2

    On the decision to replace Douglas Edwards with Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News; on whether or not management interfered with news stories; on his responsibilities as a producer

    16:42

    On what Walter Cronkite brought to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite; on Cronkite's famous sign-off, "And that's the way it is" and why Cronkite was viewed as "the most trusted man in America" and the story behind Cronkite's on-air condemnation of the Vietnam War (which Cronkite delivered on a special primetime report, not on the CBS Evening News)

    08:50

    On his professional relationship with Walter Cronkite and some of the disagreements they had

    10:31

    On not becoming Executive Producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite when producer Ernie Lizer stepped down; on becoming a Vice President at CBS News

    12:39

    On the daily routines at CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite; on memorable interviews Cronkite conducted; on Walter Cronkite's announcement that President Kennedy was dead; on CBS' coverage of the Civil Rights Movement

    10:47

    Chapter 3

    On CBS's coverage of the Vietnam War; on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    19:19

    On CBS coverage of the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago; on Walter Cronkite's coverage of the Moon Landing; on the competition between CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and The Huntley-Brinkley Report

    18:03

    On joining the Washington Bureau of CBS News; on management upheaval at CBS and Walter Cronkite's retirement

    13:57

    On changes he made during his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau under the Nixon administration; on Spiro T. Agnew's 1969 speech attacking news coverage

    08:51

    Chapter 4

    On heading up CBS' coverage of Nixon's resignation and the Pike Report

    18:32

    On overseeing CBS' Washington Bureau in the 1970s during the Ford and Carter Administrations; on the contentious relationship between the Nixon Administration and the press; on finally becoming executive producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    09:53

    On CBS coverage of the Iran Hostage Crisis; on dealing with the Reagan administration; on the transition of Dan Rather to the evening news anchor's chair; on his move to London to serve as the CBS News Bureau Chief

    07:40

    On leaving CBS News to serve as the Executive Producer of the Christian Science Monitor's nightly newscast on the Discovery Channel in the late 1980s, World Monitor

    01:33

    On changes in network news over the years; on how cable news affected broadcast news; on the biggest problems facing the news media; on his proudest achievement; on how he'd like to be remembered and advice to an aspiring news producer

    06:19

    CBS Evening News with Dan Rather

    Sanford Socolow on the transition of Dan Rather to the evening news anchor's chair of CBS Evening News with Dan Rather

    03:05

    CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    Sanford Socolow on producing CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    07:19

    Sanford Socolow on his role as producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    16:42

    Sanford Socolow on what Walter Cronkite brought to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    01:13

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's famous sign-off on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite  - "And that's the way it is" 

    02:16

    Sanford Socolow on how Walter Cronkite became "the most trusted man in America" and the story behind Cronkite's on-air condemnation of the Vietnam War (which Cronkite delivered on a special primetime report, not on the CBS Evening News)

    05:13

    Sanford Socolow on not becoming Executive Producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite when producer Ernie Lizer stepped down (a decision approved by Walter Cronkite and likely decided by Fred Friendly); on becoming a Vice President at CBS News

    12:39

    Sanford Socolow on the daily routines at CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    03:35

    Sanford Socolow on memorable interviews Cronkite conducted on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite  - with JFK

    01:07

    Sanford Socolow on the competition between CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and The Huntley-Brinkley Report

    05:45

    Sanford Socolow on finally becoming executive producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite; on how the culture of the show had changed during his absence

    03:21

    Sanford Socolow on technological changes that had occurred during his absence from CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    01:02

    Sanford Socolow on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite coverage of the Iran Hostage Crisis

    03:19

    CBS Morning News

    Sanford Socolow on his first job at CBS - getting assigned to CBS Morning News

    02:36

    Douglas Edwards with the News

    Sanford Socolow on Douglas Edwards' news broadcasts (produced by Don Hewitt)

    02:06

    Sanford Socolow on the use of graphics and videotape on Douglas Edwards' news broadcasts 

    02:51

    Huntley-Brinkley Report, The

    Sanford Socolow on the competition between CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and The Huntley-Brinkley Report

    05:45

    Olympics

    Sanford Socolow on technological advances that aided CBS coverage of the Munich Olympics in 1972

    04:02

    Person to Person

    Sanford Socolow on Edward R. Murrow's celebrity interview show, Person to Person

    00:30

    Advice

    Sanford Socolow on advice to an aspiring news producer

    01:07

    Civil Rights Movement

    Sanford Socolow on CBS' coverage of the Civil Rights Movement

    03:44

    Gerald Ford

    Sanford Socolow on overseeing CBS' Washington Bureau in the 1970s during the Ford Administration

    01:28

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Sanford Socolow on getting drafted into the Korean War and serving in the public information office and the First Radio Broadcasting and Leaflet group

    06:06

    Sanford Socolow on how Walter Cronkite became "the most trusted man in America" and the story behind Cronkite's on-air condemnation of the Vietnam War (which Cronkite delivered on a special primetime report, not on the CBS Evening News)

    05:13

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's announcement that President Kennedy was dead

    02:01

    Sanford Socolow on CBS' coverage of the Civil Rights Movement

    03:44

    Sanford Socolow on CBS's coverage of the Vietnam War

    03:55

    Sanford Socolow on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    04:17

    Sanford Socolow on CBS coverage of the Moon Landing

    04:03

    JFK Assassination and Funeral

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's announcement that President Kennedy was dead

    02:01

    Jimmy Carter

    Sanford Socolow on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite coverage of the Iran Hostage Crisis

    03:19

    Korean War

    Sanford Socolow on getting drafted into the Korean War and serving in the public information office and the First Radio Broadcasting and Leaflet group

    06:06

    Lyndon B. Johnson

    Sanford Socolow on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    04:17

    Moon Landing

    Sanford Socolow on CBS coverage of the Moon Landing

    04:03

    Richard M. Nixon

    Sanford Socolow on changes he made during his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau under the Nixon administration - identifying who was asking questions of the President

    02:33

    Sanford Socolow on his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau under the Nixon administration; on his direct line to Nixon's Press Secretary, Ron Ziegler, and to NBC and ABC

    06:18

    Sanford Socolow on CBS' coverage of Nixon's resignation and the Pike Report

    06:48

    Technological Innovation

    Sanford Socolow on the use of graphics and videotape on Douglas Edwards' news broadcasts 

    02:51

    Sanford Socolow on technological changes that had occurred during his absence from CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and that aided CBS coverage of the Munich Olympics in 1972

    05:04

    Television and the Presidency

    Sanford Socolow on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    04:17

    Sanford Socolow on changes he made during his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau under the Nixon administration - identifying who was asking questions of the President

    02:33

    Sanford Socolow on his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau under the Nixon administration; on his direct line to Nixon's Press Secretary, Ron Ziegler, and to NBC and ABC

    06:18

    Sanford Socolow on CBS' coverage of Nixon's resignation and the Pike Report

    06:48

    Sanford Socolow on overseeing CBS' Washington Bureau in the 1970s during the Ford Administration

    01:28

    Sanford Socolow on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite coverage of the Iran Hostage Crisis

    03:19

    Television Industry

    Sanford Socolow on changes he made during his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau under the Nixon administration - identifying who was asking questions of the President

    02:33

    Sanford Socolow on changes in network news over the years

    07:05

    Sanford Socolow on how cable news affected broadcast news

    01:08

    Sanford Socolow on the biggest problems facing the news media

    01:20

    Sanford Socolow on advice to an aspiring news producer

    01:07

    Vietnam War

    Sanford Socolow on how Walter Cronkite became "the most trusted man in America" and the story behind Cronkite's on-air condemnation of the Vietnam War (which Cronkite delivered on a special primetime report, not on the CBS Evening News)

    05:13

    Sanford Socolow on CBS's coverage of the Vietnam War

    03:55

    Sanford Socolow on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    04:17

    War

    Sanford Socolow on getting drafted into the Korean War and serving in the public information office and the First Radio Broadcasting and Leaflet group

    06:06

    Sanford Socolow on how Walter Cronkite became "the most trusted man in America" and the story behind Cronkite's on-air condemnation of the Vietnam War (which Cronkite delivered on a special primetime report, not on the CBS Evening News)

    05:13

    Sanford Socolow on CBS's coverage of the Vietnam War

    03:55

    Sanford Socolow on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    04:17

    Journalists & News Producers

    Sanford Socolow on differences between writing for print journalism and broadcasting

    01:09

    Sanford Socolow on his role and Don Hewitt's role as producers of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:59

    Sanford Socolow on not becoming Executive Producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite  when producer Ernie Lizer stepped down

    02:19

    News Producer

    Sanford Socolow on his role and Don Hewitt's role as producers of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:59

    Sanford Socolow on not becoming Executive Producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite when producer Ernie Lizer stepped down

    02:19

    Sanford Socolow on advice to an aspiring news producer

    01:07

    News and Documentary

    Sanford Socolow on the state of CBS News in the 1950s

    01:02

    Sanford Socolow on working for DuMont and CBS News 

    39:50

    Sanford Socolow on his role as producer of and stories covered on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    59:29

    Sanford Socolow on his time at the CBS Washington News Bureau

    22:48

    Sanford Socolow on CBS News coverage of memorable events of the 1960s and 1970s

    37:22

    Sanford Socolow on changes in network news over the years

    07:05

    Spiro T. Agnew

    Sanford Socolow on Spiro T. Agnew's 1969 speech attacking news coverage

    01:27

    David Brinkley

    Sanford Socolow on the competition between CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and The Huntley-Brinkley Report

    05:45

    Ned Calmer

    Sanford Socolow on getting assigned to write for Ned Calmer on CBS Morning News

    01:42

    John Chancellor

    Sanford Socolow on John Chancellor getting accosted at the 1964 Democratic National Convention in Chicago

    00:42

    Charles Collingwood

    Sanford Socolow on Charles Collingwood's early coverage of the Vietnam War

    01:14

    Walter Cronkite

    Sanford Socolow on he and Walter Cronkite both having a background in the wire service; on his first encounter with Cronkite

    01:08

    Sanford Socolow going to Israel with Walter Cronkite to conduct interviews for the televised Adolf Eichmann trial

    02:01

    Sanford Socolow on the Russians putting the first man in space and Walter Cronkite anchoring coverage of where the U.S. stood in the space race

    01:14

    Sanford Socolow on producing CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite; on the show becoming 30 minutes instead of 15

    04:31

    Sanford Socolow on Eric Sevareid and Harry Reasoner's contributions to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:48

    Sanford Socolow on the decision to replace Douglas Edwards with Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News

    02:04

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite interviewing Frank Sinatra and asking about Sinatra's alleged mafia ties and Sinatra pulling Don Hewitt into another room

    01:20

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's report on Watergate resulting in the White House launching an assault on William Paley and Frank Stanton

    10:19

    Sanford Socolow on what Walter Cronkite brought to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    01:13

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's famous sign-off on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite  - "And that's the way it is" 

    02:15

    Sanford Socolow on how Walter Cronkite became "the most trusted man in America" and the story behind Cronkite's on-air condemnation of the Vietnam War (which Cronkite delivered on a special primetime report, not on the CBS Evening News)

    05:13

    Sanford Socolow on his professional relationship with Walter Cronkite and some of the disagreements they had (involving Dan Rather's location during Kennedy's assassination)

    05:24

    Sanford Socolow on he and Walter Cronkite sharing a wire service background and both being hard news guys; on a disagreement they had over the film "The China Syndrome"

    02:53

    Sanford Socolow on socializing with Walter Cronkite and the demands on Cronkite's time

    02:14

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's announcement that President Kennedy was dead

    02:01

    Sanford Socolow on CBS' coverage of the Civil Rights Movement and Walter Cronkite never reporting on the scene during the Movement

    03:44

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's coverage of the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago and Cronkite interviewing Mayor Daley

    04:35

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's coverage of the Moon Landing

    01:37

    Sanford Socolow on the competition between CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and The Huntley-Brinkley Report

    05:45

    Sanford Socolow on the circumstances around Walter Cronkite's retirement

    10:27

    Joe DiMaggio

    Sanford Socolow on Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio's honeymoon in Tokyo and spending a week with Monroe in Korea

    02:04

    Douglas Edwards

    Sanford Socolow on Douglas Edwards' news broadcasts (produced by Don Hewitt)

    02:06

    Sanford Socolow on the decision to replace Douglas Edwards with Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News

    02:04

    Fred Friendly

    Sanford Socolow on not becoming Executive Producer of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite when producer Ernie Lizer stepped down (a decision approved by Walter Cronkite and likely decided by Fred Friendly)

    12:39

    Don Hewitt

    Sanford Socolow on Douglas Edwards' news broadcasts (produced by Don Hewitt)

    02:06

    Sanford Socolow on Don Hewitt's opinions on Eric Sevareid and Harry Reasoner's contributions to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:48

    Sanford Socolow on the decision to replace Douglas Edwards with Walter Cronkite, and Cronkite getting the title Managing Editor on the CBS Evening News because he didn't trust Don Hewitt

    00:38

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite interviewing Frank Sinatra and asking about Sinatra's alleged mafia ties and Sinatra pulling Don Hewitt into another room

    01:20

    Sanford Socolow on his role and Don Hewitt's role as producers of CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:59

    Sanford Socolow on working with Don Hewitt on CBS' coverage of the Vietnam War

    03:55

    Chet Huntley

    Sanford Socolow on the competition between CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite and The Huntley-Brinkley Report

    05:45

    Lyndon B. Johnson

    Sanford Socolow on the friendship between Frank Stanton and Lyndon Johnson and whether it influenced CBS news coverage of Vietnam

    04:17

    John F. Kennedy

    Sanford Socolow on memorable interviews Cronkite conducted on CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite  - with JFK

    01:07

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's announcement that President Kennedy was dead

    02:01

    Charles Kuralt

    Sanford Socolow on possible successors for Walter Cronkite's anchor desk at CBS - Roger Mudd and Charles Kuralt

    02:49

    Sig Mickelson

    Sanford Socolow on Edward R. Murrow's news operation at CBS being separate from CBS News

    01:33

    Marilyn Monroe

    Sanford Socolow on Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio's honeymoon in Tokyo and spending a week with Monroe in Korea

    02:04

    Roger Mudd

    Sanford Socolow on possible successors for Walter Cronkite's anchor desk at CBS - Roger Mudd and Charles Kuralt

    03:19

    Sanford Socolow on Roger Mudd's style being similar to Walter Cronkite's

    01:48

    Edward R. Murrow

    Sanford Socolow on being thrilled to joined Edward R. Murrow's news operation at CBS

    01:33

    Sanford Socolow on whether or not he signed a loyalty oath at CBS (championed by Edward R. Murrow)

    01:57

    William S. Paley

    Sanford Socolow on attending Columbia University (thanks to a fellowship from William S. Paley and the CBS Foundation)

    02:32

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's report on Watergate resulting in the White House launching an assault on William Paley and Frank Stanton

    10:19

    Dan Rather

    Sanford Socolow on his professional relationship with Walter Cronkite and some of the disagreements they had (involving Dan Rather's location during Kennedy's assassination)

    05:24

    Sanford Socolow on Dan Rather's fight at the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago

    01:23

    Sanford Socolow on Dan Rather becoming Walter Cronkite's successor at the anchor desk at CBS

    03:33

    Sanford Socolow on Dan Rather's response to Nixon's resignation

    02:19

    Sanford Socolow on the transition of Dan Rather to the evening news anchor's chair of CBS Evening News with Dan Rather

    03:05

    Harry Reasoner

    Sanford Socolow on Eric Sevareid and Harry Reasoner's contributions to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:48

    Morley Safer

    Sanford Socolow on meeting Morley Safer and putting together the famous "Burning of Cam Ne" piece

    02:41

    Richard S. Salant

    Sanford Socolow on Richard S. Salant's opinions on Eric Sevareid and Harry Reasoner's contributions to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    01:38

    Sanford Socolow on Richard S. Salant's decision to replace Douglas Edwards with Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News

    01:00

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's report on Watergate resulting in the White House launching an assault on William Paley and Frank Stanton, and Dick Salant's response to the report

    10:19

    Sanford Socolow on Dick Salant's response to the Pike Report being published in the Village Voice

    07:56

    Daniel Schorr

    Sanford Socolow on heading CBS' coverage of Nixon's resignation and Daniel Schorr's criticism of the coverage

    04:29

    Sanford Socolow on his and Daniel Schorr's response to the Pike Report being published in the Village Voice

    11:19

    Eric Sevareid

    Sanford Socolow on Eric Sevareid and Harry Reasoner's contributions to CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite

    02:48

    Sanford Socolow on editing Eric Sevareid's scripts; on Sevareid's retirement

    10:56

    Frank Sinatra

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite interviewing Frank Sinatra and asking about Sinatra's alleged mafia ties and Sinatra pulling Don Hewitt into another room

    01:20

    Frank Stanton

    Sanford Socolow on Walter Cronkite's report on Watergate resulting in the White House launching an assault on William Paley and Frank Stanton

    10:19

    Gloria Steinem

    Sanford Socolow on Gloria Steinem's opinions of the Moon Landing

    02:26

    Mike Wallace

    Sanford Socolow on getting hired by Ted Yates to work at DuMont with Mike Wallace

    01:56

    Alice Weel

    Sanford Socolow on Douglas Edwards' news broadcasts (produced by Don Hewitt) and written by Alice Weel

    02:06

    Ted Yates

    Sanford Socolow on getting hired by Ted Yates to work at DuMont with Mike Wallace

    01:56

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